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Who Won the Brown-Warren Debate?

Incumbent Scott Brown and challenger Elizabeth Warren squared off in their first debate Thursday night.

 

Republican Senator Scott Brown faced off against Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren Thursday night in a debate televised by WBZ-TV. The Thursday debate was the first of four planned tilts between the candidates, and it saw disagreement between the two on just about every topic.

Polls have seesawed over the last week, with Brown and Warren swapping small leads, as they have throughout the campaign. The debates may provide one or the other an opportunity to change voter minds and swing the election his or her way.

Central to Thursday's debate was the focus on taxes, jobs and the economy.

"He has said he will defend the top 2 percent and the top 3 percent...and will hold the other 98% of families hostage," Warren said, referencing Brown's position against extending the Bush-era tax cuts unless it also contained cuts for the country's top earners.  

Brown countered by noting that Warren's policies would raise taxes, on everyone, in fact, it's the "first thing she looks to do," he said. 

"And the criticism is that I don't want to raise taxes," he said. "Guilty as charged. I'm not going to raise taxes. I'm going to protect taxpayers' pocketbooks and wallets."

Who do you think won the debate? Did the back and forth change your mind about the upcoming election? Did the candidates answer the questions you had? Tell us your thoughts in the comments below.

Related Topics: Debate, Elizabeth Warren, Scott Brown, and Senate

Sinclair

11:21 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Based on the history of comments in "Patch", the editor might want to change the headline from who won the debate to who are you voting for? You will not see an objective analysis of last night's debate here.

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Don Palazzo

12:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

And why not? I have nothing to do with the patch...I'm my own person. My opinion might be subjective but other opinions will create a collection of subjectives that will allow objectivity. You are being too cynical, I think.

Patti Buresh

11:36 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown is definitely the stronger candidate! Warren's answers were the cliche comments from her ad campaigns and didn't give us anymore information.

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joanne techiera

11:44 am on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown impressed me as a common man in the manner he responded to the questions posed. He is very believable as working for the middle class as well as everyone in America. He works with those across the aisle to get things done. And if he didn't care about women and their causes, his wife and two daughters would not be in his camp. Warren remained calm but repetative with her answers but some how haughty in her demeanor. She is too politically correct for my liking and bring up the name of a Senator who will be the head of something if the Senate becomes Republican in majority was out of line. Is that etched in stone?

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Elaine

3:25 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I agree totally. She still refuses to show through written applications etc. if she used her limited if any Native American heritage to her advantage.

Chris Taylor

12:27 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I too feel Warren started to do a little circular reasoning, however do like that she was calm and collective throughout. I felt Brown was being a bit of a bully at times, and was def hitting some low blows, however, part of his delivery made me think he's got a good standup attitude, and that's what we need in Washington, not that Warren doesn't have it. Mixed feelings about this debate.

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Ken

2:42 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I think Brown had a right to stand up and be firm in his defense (and offense)....after all, Warren has accused him of being at WAR with women.....something she repeated last night, which is totally ridiculous. If someone accused me of that over and over...I'd be as worked up as Scott was last night. But he kept himself under control and simply pointed out facts that refuted everything warren was claiming. Brown won easily last night

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Elaine

3:27 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Apparently off screen she was making faces and acting in a way I would not admire. She seemed to really focus on only a couple of items which were on her agenda and didn't answer the qyestions asked.

Paul Izzo

12:32 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

The voters won. Both candidates were themselves. Brown was the everyman moderate. Warren was the liberal professor. Voters got a reasonable picture of each candidate's values. The moderator mostly kept things moving. And best of all, it was over in an hour. Well done.

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Don Palazzo

12:36 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown voted based on his analysis of the 'big picture' on each bill that he is/was 'held to account' on in the debate. Elizabeth Warren just took the title of each vote and left out the contents to criticize him on each vote. Are we to believe that Warren will blindly vote on the titles of each bill and ignore the specifics? I think that I want someone in the Senate who THINKS ABOUT and ANALYZES each bill and Elizabeth Warren did not come across as the person who will do this. Regardless of your politics, I believe that Scott Brown will do what he thinks is the right thing for all of us. Elizabeth Warren impressed me as a person who will vote blindly along party lines because she is ruled by her emotions. Warren ignored/disregarded the fact that many Democrats also voted the same way that Scott Brown voted on many of the issues that she 'scolded' him for. The debate showed me that Scott Brown will use his brain and Elizabeth Warren will hold a 'rubber stamp' in her hand. There was no depth of intelligence in Warren's words. It was like she is a believer in 'concepts without thought'.

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michael achey

12:37 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

His biggest problem is the Republican platform which is uncompromisingly and patronistically anti female. Warren's observation about the vote for control of the Senate is spot on. A change in leadership allows huge leeway to a party which is "big tent" in rhetoric and small tent in principle. "Working across the aisle" but voting in sync with nearly every important piece of Republican legislation is not the same thing. If you value clean water, air, and energy, you have to pay strict attention to who runs the Senate.

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Emcee of Seekonk

1:00 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Anti female? Do you remember what happened to Hillary Clinton? How she was treated by her own party?

Dan O'Neil

12:42 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I'm going to be quite honest here I'm not a big fan of either. I think Scott Brown does occassionally vote for items that do hurt middle class citizens. I think Warren wants to help these folks, but lets face facts she is a 1%'er and she got the tax break that she claims to be against. She also refuses to prove her heritage and I think that by not coming clean she has something to hide and to me she is simply not trustworthy. Simply put I will vote for Brown because he makes no bones about being bipartisan. He tells you the truth and isn't hiding who and what he is. I don't agree with many of his votes in the senate, but he will get mine simply for being honest and up front and that is what earns my trust.

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lowertaxes

2:39 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Dan, she does refuse to prove her heritage, she can't prove her heritage. Her campaign hired the New England Historical Genealogical Society to prove her heritage and all they were able to prove is that she has no Native American Heritage.

Indiana

12:50 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I agree with Joanne as well...Brown sounds like a decent man - Warren sounds like a PC elitist

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Christine

1:42 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sorry, but reading most comments from a biased Brown audience from Walpole, is not my idea of a fair assessment of the debates. I particularly took issue with the comment about Brown being an "ordinary" person and Warren a professor from Harvard. Since when did being an educator make you a bad candidate or make that person any less of a down to earth person? Brown is an attorney who went to a very prestigious university, so are we to label him one of those "lawyer" types. And since when did being a thinking, rational educated person become something not admirable? She is not a PC elitist..just because YOU have a problem with folks who have brains...and again, does that make her not decent? He seems to be refusing to claim that he is from the party of NO, the bunch of yahoos who refuse to believe in climate change or evolution, or that women's rights are human rights. He is not a moderate but someone who sides with them and is trying to get re-elected so now he is backing away from who he is and what party he represents. THAT is more important than whether she has some Am. Indian blood.

For me, I am tired of him, tired of hearing his whining and trying to convince us that he is anything but a Teapublican. And I cannot wait until the campaigns are over.

Buseybee

1:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I thought that Brown came off as rather smug, sometimes annoyed and seemed like he just wanted to get this thing over with. I thought his reference to Warren's ethnicity was a low ball. She's answered that question before, the schools that hired her did not take that into consideration when hiring her and I thought that Brown's remark that Warren didn't "look" like a native American verged on racist. If she had been a light skinned black person, the press would have been all over him if he said "gee, you don't look black". I believe that she was told by her mother that there was native American blood in the family and she believes that.
I also don't like the fact that Brown voted against the Equal Pay for Equal Work bill which would have guaranteed women to be paid the same wage as men for the same work.
I didn't like the fact that there was some doubt about him returning from D.C to participate in the debate. I'm glad Sen. Reid suspended any further voting so Brown could make it back.
The bottom line for me is that I know Warren will be on the side of the people in all matters that come before the Senate. Once Brown gets in there for 6 years, I believe he will fall right in line with the GOP juggernaut and we'll have four more years of stalemates.
I will be watching the future debates. Maybe I'll get a different vibe but I don't think so.

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Jay Walpole

1:46 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Agreed ... It is time to move forward .

Christine

1:42 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sorry, but reading most comments from a biased Brown audience from Walpole, is not my idea of a fair assessment of the debates. I particularly took issue with the comment about Brown being an "ordinary" person and Warren a professor from Harvard. Since when did being an educator make you a bad candidate or make that person any less of a down to earth person? Brown is an attorney who went to a very prestigious university, so are we to label him one of those "lawyer" types. And since when did being a thinking, rational educated person become something not admirable? She is not a PC elitist..just because YOU have a problem with folks who have brains...and again, does that make her not decent? He seems to be refusing to claim that he is from the party of NO, the bunch of yahoos who refuse to believe in climate change or evolution, or that women's rights are human rights. He is not a moderate but someone who sides with them and is trying to get re-elected so now he is backing away from who he is and what party he represents. THAT is more important than whether she has some Am. Indian blood.

For me, I am tired of him, tired of hearing his whining and trying to convince us that he is anything but a Teapublican. And I cannot wait until the campaigns are over.

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Jay Walpole

1:48 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

She has integrity .. More than I can say for his tomahawk wielding staff.

City Guy

2:01 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I am not fond of the name calling of anyone. Warren's "Liawatha and the like" show pettiness.
Her answer, however, about heritage fell short. "My Mother and Aunts told me." Well gee, Liz, you could have done a little background check on yourself before you applied for benefits with a claim to being a minority.

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DJ

9:41 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Wow City Guy, what benefits did Warren apply for using her "made up heritage"?. I'm third generation Irish and I've yet to identify half my "clan" on paper. Indian nation was not exactly ahead of turn of the century documentation initiatives all of which were hand done and paper cut. Given my experiences trying to "confirm" paternal Irish background, I found my sir name confused and mixed with six different spellings with an array of religious, demographic and ancestral dynamics. So I'd suggest you look inward to realize that your misgivings are likely no more personally distant from your own history then you lack of empathy to same.

SJP

2:11 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Brown is a much, much better candidate. Warren is just another lib zealot, never can make a point with her, never wrong, thinks in the "vote for me and every thing is free mold". 345K @Harvard for almost ZERO student contact. No wonder young kids get out of college with 6K debts everywhere. God help us if we get another zealot MOONBAT.

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SJP

2:13 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

sorry, last line should have read, "either 100+K or 6 figure debts."

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Jay Walpole

1:58 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Why do you call educated people moon bats? Aside from the pick up , Bruins and Red Sox shirts how is this "stay at home Dad" regular guy ... Hopefully you would want more than a regular guy for your Senator. She has championed the middle class, Stood up a Federal Consumer Agency, written 9 books on Finance and bankruptcy, been a school teacher, a stay at home Mom, etc. What has Scott Brown accomplished that matches her accomplishments? He has the head of the Cherokee Nation pretty upset ... Oh ... I forgot He meets with Kings and Queens on a regular basis.

Kevin

2:22 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown did NOT win the debate, Warren did!!! She won by being authoritative and informed on the issues, not being condescending like Brown, and stating the facts that Brown did not. Lets face it the so called job creators are not going to be creating ANY jobs, heck bank of america is about to lay off 30k people shortly. Giving more or allowing tax breaks to ANY large corporations or millionaires is crazy at this point to continue. The greed that is trying to take over this country is simply insane. Don't be stupid and waste your vote on a republican, they are all gonna be tossed out. Romney is going to end up with LESS electoral votes that McCain did, he simply has no clue about average americans living in his golden palace paid for with the money he made on the backs of the unemployed that were laid off by Bain or had their jobs outsourced to other countries to improve his balance sheet.

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Jay Walpole

2:02 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Kevin ... you get it ... Warren will hold Wall Street and the Banks accountable. They do not want to see her get elected because she wrote the book. She sees through the shady and risky deals and will put a stop to them .. They should be afraid ... No more free reign...

Daniel F. Devine

2:31 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Definitely SCOTT BROWN, The American Indian with blond hair & blue eyes from Oklahoma lost BIG TIME! I cannot understand how anyone could vote for her, yet I understand it's very close.

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Ken

2:44 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown won this debate against the Parrot......she was taught well by her trainers and repeated the same thing over and over.....but Scott rebuffed her every time she "fibbed" and he also took the offensive and proved once again that she lied about her heritage. She refused to even respond to his request for her to produce documentation. Easy win for Brown

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Kevin

2:46 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

People are voting for Warren because they are tired of giving tax breaks to the wealth and big corporations while they never create any jobs. So the auspice of not raising tax breaks for the fake "job creators" is not treading water anymore. As every day goes by and we get closer to the election did you notice that Obama's and Warren's lead gets bigger? Must be a reason eh?

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Daniel F. Devine

6:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Kevin, you say "As everyday goes by and we get closer to the election did you notice that Obamas and Warren's lead gets bigger? Must be a reason eh?" YES, THERE'S A REASON, IGNORANT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE!

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Jay Walpole

2:11 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Brown can not run in Massachusetts on his actual record ... so the smoke screen ... He makes up the crisis, angers the head of the Cherokee Nation and refuses to apologize. Lets take about Health Care, tough regulations on financial corporations that are too big to fail etc... If Brown had voted for the people of Massachusetts , that would be his lead story ... But his lead story is a racial slur and character deformation. Have you asked why he afraid to discuss his ACTUAL record?

Ken

2:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Kevin, perhaps you should stop believing the Boston Globe...Scott Brown is ahead by 6%. But don't let facts stand in the way of your hatred towards the Republicans.. Much like your favorite politicians..you are spewing untruths, Obama will most likely win......but we all know why....Warren will not win and is not leading

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Kevin

3:08 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Keep telling yourself that Ken, when in fact you are the one misinformed. Warren is leading and everything I stated is fact, unlike Brown in last nights debate who was lying through his teeth, pandering for votes. I know though your method is always the same like all republicans, keep stating and repeating lies until you yourself believe they are true. Sorry, but not this time, the truth is Warren is leading and Brown is lying through his teeth. Why else would he vote against a bill for equal pay for equal work for women while living in a houshold while he is the only male? Talk about a hypocrite, that is exactly what Brown is besides a liar. Warren won the debate last night and will get my vote!! She is for the little guy not big business and the wealthy like Brown. Funny part is that Warren is much more successful than Brown and very wealthy but unlike Brown she has not forgotten her roots. So let's hear the typical snyde remark in response about her indian heritage, it is in this years republican handbook isn't it? Like that even matters to anyone ahahaha!! Just more diversions from the fact that Brown is supporting tax breaks for the rich and big corporations that are not creating any jobs, and cannot justify that.

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Dan O'Neil

3:14 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

She will get votes because we are demochusetts.

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Ken

3:17 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

OK Kevin...keep telling yourself that.....I'll be back here election night.....how do you like your crow......well done?

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Ken

3:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Oh and Kevin...hating people for being wealthy...makes you a jealous little biy.....people are people...both parties have good and bad........the fact is Warren is a liar..Brown is the one out for the middle class. Warren wants to raise taxes.......not cut them. But again..believe what you want. I'm tired of talking to Liberals....it's a pointless exercise in futility

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Christine

7:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

I see, Ken, and when you make a statement like calling Warren a liar, you need to base that comment in fact...something that that you, and Brown and Romney and Ryan seem to be without...no facts. You all live in some delusional bubble. Hey, the more you folks spew negativity and the less factual statements, Obama anmd Warren's poll numbers go up. You all can fool people so long before they reject your "facts"!!!!! Mitt keep on talking.....

Indiana

3:22 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Kevin what are smoking?? warren is one of the 1% you hate on...today's poll has Romney and Obama tied at 47 each. warren has no shot at beating brown

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Kevin

5:30 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Ken if your tired of talking to liberals then move to Kentucky your in a liberal state and you fortunately are the minority here, thank god your red vote will be wasted lol. I also appreciate your derogatory name calling by saying I am a biy whatever that is and I have a good idea. But that is the modis operandi of republicans like you start name calling when someone disagrees with you. Well I'm here to tell you that in this state I am the majority and we will prevail. Need a link to kayak so you can move to a red state and live among other folks with the same brain handicap that you seem to have....

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Ken B.

5:50 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Yes the demos are the majority in MA. Because of the old saw that "absolute power corrupts absolutely" the last 3 house speakers are convicted felons. A motorcyclist out for a cruise in Milford was killed by a drunken illegal, because the governor refused to sign up the state for secure communities. The same gov who talked about the great job he did on the roads here at the convention, is currently working backroom deals to spring a gas tax hike on us, to fix the roads we all know are horrible. The same gov who very likely will refuse to challenge Michael Kosilek's sex change case.
Let's not forget re-electing a murdering drunk to the senate 6 times either.
The connecting thread ??? Demos, All !!
Yes, being part of "the majority" here, is certainly something to be proud of !!!

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Kevin

5:55 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sorry Ken, no one wants to read your angry laundry list of delusional babble. My offer still stands to give you a link to kayak so you can move and go live among other angry delusional republicans such as yourself say in Kentucky.

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Ken B.

6:10 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Um, I'm not the same Ken, but I "get" where you're coming from. Now don't forget that you have to use the left-handed monkey wrench to fix the gate to the Unicorn pen.

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Just Me!

9:32 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

actually...everything Kens says here is documented....I don't understand why ..when folks bring fact to the table, that others attempt to sweep them under the rug as if they never happened....Brown will win this time and he will be under close scrutiny for his term. If he does well in this upcoming term..he will be re-elected...if not, i'm sure Warren will make it tough for re-election in the next election

Kevin

6:28 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

It sure does, especially for Scott Brown who lost the debate and will lose the election, for Mitt Romney who is losing the election and will lose in the end, and mostly for you because you have not sought out professional help for your delusions yet lol.

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Kevin

6:29 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Remember Ken, the first step to getting help is actually admitting you have a problem. We're all hear listening if you'd like to start now lol.

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Kevin

6:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Daniel don't think I forgot about your comment. The only ignorant people voting are the ones like you who think like Ken and are just angry sad individuals that need professional help to cure them of the delusions they are under thinking that their vote for a republican in this state will mean anything. Maybe you should think about becoming Kens roommate in Kentucky. I hear he is looking for one lol.

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lolo

7:36 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Scott Brown won as a lifelong Democrat me and my family all all switching our votes to BROWN. A True INDEPENDENT VOICE

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lolo

7:37 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

He clearly won. Even a democrat will admit this.

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Christine

7:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Really? You are living in some alternate reality.

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Ken B.

12:22 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

agreed. thanks lolo. It's about what's best for the country.
Obviously Kevin had to go "nite-nite." !!

steve

12:52 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Lifetime democrat voting for Scott Brown this state needs some real help and its not warren. We also have to get rid of that governor we have he is ruining this state everyday he is in office let's keep giving freebies out to everyone good job deval. Next we lose that president who is clearly an idiot. This country needs some big changes and we don't need any more liberals we need strong people that can make us all proud to be American again.

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christopher tingus

6:51 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

As an Independent voter, obviously, Scott Brown!
....With Germany on the march soon into Syria and manufacturing and soon to deliver 600-800 Leopard tanks to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, I will cast my vote to oust this Rev Wright-Obama pulpit with empty rhetorical orations in broken political promises and his biased, narrow-minded perspective from this "Chicago-Hollywood-Washington Express" who "whispers" to the "KGB Putinites" -
While We watch with much consternation an evolving conflagration throughout the Middle East and are aghast to see Ms. Hillary and this "Chicago city street slicker" who promised his one term if unemployment remained consistently high after his nearly four years of leading this "Goldman Sachs WH" who not only - lost - $750 billion in initial stimulus monies with "smug-smiled Pelosi" and Hank Paulsen et al along with good 'ol Bernanke telling us the monies were lost - ya' right, to their banker pals!

Scott Brown is the second most bi-partisan Senator in the thick of these "beltway bandits" and Scott Brown unlike this White House who chooses to shred the Constitution and the Bill of Rights whenever possible now both with tattered edges and soon to be replaced just like the - new flag just introduced by this - warped Chicago city street slicker - an insult to 'ol Glory, our Judeo-Christian core values and to every American. Indignation, you bet at $70k on Pakistani ads depicting a weak and willing lie by Wh and Ms. Hillary - chris.tingus@gmail.com

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christopher tingus

7:28 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Outrage and shouts of treason - the betrayal of trust as this "Chicago city street slicker" in his quest to alter America and this Rev Wright-Obama pulpit tainted in such disregard to America which We saw when the bust of Winston Churchill was removed and replaced with Martin Luther King and then we saw from the outset this disregard for local law enforcement when elitist and MV pal Harvard professor and this "Chicago city street slicker" - the WH interfering in a local law enforcement 911 call and later this condescending view promulgated that every cop on the job must be biased but heck now that these two prejudiced WH and Prof have divided the country in such disingenuous way and achieved their objective, heck let's promote a beer fest on the WH lawn! If any police officer, firefighter or EMT votes for this "Chicago city street slicker" how dare you after such insult to 911 responding officers to see a WH interfere with a local law enforcement agency without knowing the facts! The lack of Respect towards our National Anthem, the new Obama flag unfurled this week, a week where we saw a Us embassy guarded by US Marine with empty guns per executive order down the ranks on 911 and a US Ambassador sodomized and dragged in the street, a gentleman concerned and expressed such of possible violence w/intel report - Ms. Hillary and this "Chicago city street slocker" and nothing more who as a half white man has left Black America and especially its youth with soaring unemployment!

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Daniel F. Devine

6:13 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Well Said Christopher! - - What's wrong with people backing this PHONEY? I can understand all the MILLIONS of freeloaders & illegals voting for him (many multiple times each), but what's wrong with the rest of the population? He's destroying OUR country! Four years wasn't enough, he needs another four to finish the job! Well, if he's re-elected, at least we can say: "I told you so". I fear it may be too late anyway.

Dan O'Neil

9:03 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

I'd like to share this gem of a story with all the dems commenting on this debate. It has nothing to do with the debate, but you just might learn something:

The $50 Lesson

Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog. During our friendly conversation, I asked their little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?" She replied... "I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people." Her parents beamed with pride! "Wow...what a worthy goal!" I said. "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that!" I told her. "What do you mean?" she replied. So I told her, "You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I'll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out and give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house." She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?" I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party." Her parents aren't speaking to me anymore

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christopher tingus

9:18 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

A great story and very timely at time in history where a new Obama American flag was unfurled and US WH and State dept pay for Pakastani television space to apologize to those who see our demise - "I shout Teason and Shame on You I say" Christopher Tingus, US Citizen who calls for an immediate "Benghazi Congressional Hearing" to seek truth in the days before this planned AQ Benghazi attack and a US government inciting those who knew nothing about this flick -- causing conflagration and ol "Glory being shredded while the US President has only attended 38% of daily intel briefings and upon hearing of the attack later in the day left for a political rally in Las Vegas!

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Avon Barksdale

9:23 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

This chestnut is almost as older than my grandmother, and she's dead. Yet every time someone posts it to a message board, they have so much pride in themselves and they invariably get a few people to pat them on the back. It just goes to show you that in politics, you don't need to be talented, inventive or creative, you just need to feed red meat to the animals.

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Kerry Payson

9:48 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Hi Dan, This lesson would work if all things were equal. Unfortunately, though, all things are not equal. I volunteer approximately seven times each year cooking and serving for 1 soup kitchen and 2 homeless shelters in MA. I have been doing this volunteer work now for 16 years. I am a busy mom with three boys, work for a living and still find time to do this. Most people who are living in a homeless shelter are there for no more than 1 year. It is temporary housing for them, usually because some tragedy happened in their life. Most are single parents and all of them work. The year or so that they are there is meant to help catch them up with earning enough money so they can get back on track. Because some are dealing with very difficult issues (domestic abuse, drugs or alcohol abuse, lack of education, etc.), they also receive help while they are there. I have been very impressed with the system. It is not perfect, but it does help thousands of families and everyone I have met so far want to be on their own. At the soup kitchen, most of the people we feed are alone (although some families do attend) and those who are alone suffer from a variety of things - mental disease, some physical disabilities, etc. Most who suffer from mental diseases are not competent to work. It's very sad. In MA, the average age of a homeless person is age 8. There are many stereotypes out there about people who are homeless and the most hurtful one is that they do not want to work.

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DJ

7:39 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

This "story" is indeed just that. A dated, recycled, fiction piece of propaganda that made resurfaced onto early conservative emails many years ago.
The only thing correct is that this had nothing to do with the debate or even the candidates as it can and has been used interchangeably. Come on people....lets put our thinking caps on and at least attempt to move FORWARD>>>>>>>>>!

Jane Street

9:22 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

The big banks and Wall Street are frightened of Warren, and a lot of Browns' financial support comes from New York. Who do you think is really on the side of the middle-class?

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christopher tingus

9:36 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

What middle clas? 1 in five (5) Americans in poverty! $10.6 trillion in national budget deficit this Rev Wright-Obama pulpit easily forgets on Letterman the other night and now $16 trilion + and $70k paid to Pakistani Television so this "Chicago city street slicker" and Ms. Hillary can apologize to the same who sodomized and tortured our American Ambassador and stirred the present conflagration in the Middle East with a refernce to a flick which few knew about or had seen and in the interim, daus and weeks prior to 911, intel suggested possible attacks on US properties and personnel - "Treason I shout and Shame on You I say" as a vcall for an immediate "Benghazi Congressional Hearing" be convened....as these blatant lies from the WH and The State Dept and the WH Spokesperson must be investigated and they held accountable - no matter what supposed party affiliation you be,ong to in 2012 when this nation has been so weakened by this appaling Rev Wright-Obama pulpit led by this "Chicago City Street slicker" who unfurls a new version of 'ol Glory this week while attending only 38% of intel daily briefings and departs for a political rally in las Vegas when our country was attacked and a US Ambassador and friend to the People of Iraq sodomized, tortured and dragged through the street with video now coming gorth of these acts -

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deb of see-attleboro

9:40 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

"The big banks and Wall Street are frightened of Warren?" I thought they were afraid of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. But guess what? The big banks and Wall Street are still alive and those guys are.....well, you know the rest of the story.

Just Me!

9:44 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

The real question is....."Is there really a middle class?"..people who make less than 250k a year are middle class?..please..gimme a break..Most Americans would be happy to make 50k a year never mind 250k......The country is at war....they soldiers that go off to fight for us have their jobs taken by people who are questionably illegal..the govt want to give these illegals everything...WHY?? Then the soldiers come home to find their jobs taken away by foreigners who sit back like fat cats...I believe every person who seeks nationalization should have to serve in the military....sent over seas for their tour..then come back and call yourself citizens...how ANY politicians can allow someone who is here illegally...of offspring of those born here who have illegal parents should have to go through the process as well....Tell me...did you have to register on this site in order to post??? that's it in a nutshell....Shame on ANY politician who says take something away from legal citizens and give it to people here illegally.....

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Sinclair

9:51 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Check out the latest news on Brown's charge that Warren helped the insurance company fight against the asbestos claims. She actually helped the asbestos workers when hired by Travelers Ins. Co. to help unravel a complicated settlement. The attorney representing the workers and the asbestos union officials showed up at BROWN's headquarters to defend her and to praise her work!

Scott Brown is a phony clinging to twisted stories resulting in nonsense. He's desperate now and this foolish claim could kill his chance to win.

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Telling it like it is

10:40 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Ha ha ha. An attorney and union officials. Two groups of people ruining this country!

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Just Me!

12:00 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

yes indeed...and Native Americans never lie....

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DJ

7:46 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

And Brown knew this. He is the scheister. He knows this was a complicated issue and he pounced......inauthentically. A squirmy little lawyer move and just another lie for Senator Brown to tuck in his feather cap. I hope she stops with taking the high road. Brown takes the low one repeatedly but to his credit, does so somewhat authentically. The DEM base has instructed Warren to back off and soften her tact. Bad advise that harmed her in the debate.

Kevin

2:56 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Wow, call me silly but I don't think anyone could care less about her heritage. What's more important are the lies about Brown's support of millionaires and big oil companies getting tax breaks when we can least afford it. I guess its only a recession for the middle class and the poor. A vote for Brown is actually a vote against most people I know and their interest. Vote democrat and vote for Warren, it's a vote for your own interest lets be real here! Heck I don't make enough to vote republican lol. All republicans have are meaningless side show issues to take attention away from the real issues such as supporting tax breaks for oil companies while they make record profits and continue to gouge us all at the pumps. But keep up the side shows because it won't matter when Brown loses the election thank god.

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yerkillinme

3:34 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Ok Kevin, you can call yourself silly because there are MANY people, Democrats & Republicans alike, that have a problem with Warren falsely claiming Native American heritage to obtain special consideration in her employment.

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DJ

7:55 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Have not been a Brown fan, but have repeatedly found myself backing her mostly due to this and other misinformed issues. All of Warren's siblings and first cousins were brought up with the same understanding that they were part indian. Only distant cousins did not have that perception. A huge difference from Senator Brown's claims that were entirely unknown to all his closer family members and friends including his wife. Yes, there was agreement that Brown's mom played or jumped around, but NO one could could or did corroborate his charges of sexual abuse. Charges he only recently made. So Senator, please "Prove" these allegations are true. Should be much easier then trying to decipher the personal exploits in indian nation decades old with few if any paper trails and documents for such indices.

Kevin

3:00 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Can someone tell me when the last time a Mexican immigrant took a job from someone in Massachusetts ahahaha. Get real, vote Warren and vote for your own interest and not millionaires that don't need more tax breaks.

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Just Me!

3:58 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

I hear in the food service industry that 75% of the workers are latino..working for min wage and living 10 people in an apt.....in fact....i've seen it on many occasions in person.....

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Heather

10:22 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

@ Just Me!, I have been working in the food service industry for 25 years. In fact, I have a BS in Restaurant management. Your stats are not correct. Where I work now there are 4 latino employees. That is in a restaurant that employs over 100 people. I have worked at places that have more and I have worked at places that have less but I have never worked someplace that was even close to 75%. Here are some stats for you, although a bit dated they clearly show that your stats are not even close. http://www.restaurant.org/tools/magazines/rusa/magArchive/year/article/?ArticleID=410

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Just Me!

11:43 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Heather..I have 10 years on you in the food service industry and have seen the changes up close and personal..secondly..my statement of 75% is not "In" a particular restaurant.....I am speaking of the greater Boston Area...you can hit me with every link in the world but it makes no difference ...i have friends in the food service industry all over the country who concur....why pay one person a higher wage..when you can split it and have 2 for the price of one....The fact that your place of employment only employs 4 latinos out of a hundred employees...could raise questions...but who am I to judge....lol

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Heather

10:29 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

@Just Me and what questions would it raise that the restaurant I work at only has 4 latino employees? What are you trying to imply? Also, in all the years I have worked in management I have never paid my employees different wages depending on their ethnicity. Are you saying that you pay your latino employees less than others? If that is the case then you have a problem. I pay my staff according to their abilities and experience, not the color of their skin.

SJP

4:14 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Kevin, the reason you don't care about her lying to cheat others to get ahead is because zealots don't care about character.

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Kevin

4:53 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Yea I'm a zealot allright a zealot for not giving the rich more tax breaks or big oil companies. Is that all you have got as a response? That is pretty sad but not as sad as your wasted vote for a republican in this state lol. How come the people who actually hired Warren have already come out and said there is nothing to the heritage thing? Must be something to that eh? What's your answer to that? Yea you "hear" about the food service industry ahahaha, more baseless garbage lies. Can you folks have an original thought on any of these subjects and come up with anything other than more lies? Like anyone believes that comment get real will you people. If you folks keep telling yourselves these garbage lies do you really think the magic fairy is gonna make them true?

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Kevin

4:54 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

A vote for Warren is a vote for taking away tax breaks for the rich and big oil companies and not further eroding this state and country. Keeping Brown in office only continues the gridlock in congress and hurts people that are not rich. Now someone please come back and tell me again how a company is a person lol? You right wing nutjobs don't realize it but your whole platform is based upon lies, anger and discontent. You people are like bullies that can't have their own way and cry foul when your confronted with the truth. Move to a red state and do yourself a favor because this country and this state only get more blue as every day passes. You do realize at some point in the very near future your party is going to disband right? Especially after Obama, Warren, and many more democratic senators across the nation win their elections. Try looking at some news other than fox and you might actually realize what is happening in this country, fair and balanced lol, what a farce.

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Richard W. Lunt

11:20 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

A vote for Warren and Obama is a vote for higher taxes, more increased debt, high unemployment, out of control spending, more illegals coming into the United States, and more of the 47 percenters who are on welfare and can afford flat screen TV's and new cars. A vote for Scott Brown and Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is a vote for lower taxes, more money in our pockets, less spending, low unemployment, and more real private sector jobs instead of those shovel ready union jobs.

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Fiscal Conservative

3:00 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Kevin: Congress is comprised of the wealthy (aka 1%'ers). Do really think that they will vote themselves a tax increase? Get real, it won't happen in your or my lifetime. Tax laws were written and passed by Congress. Blame them for the mess. No matter what, every politician in DC (or Boston) will take care of themselves first. Middle Class will continue to suffer until a Flat Tax is placed into law. That is a Flat Tax where everyone is EQUAL. Everyone gets the exact same amount of deductions and the same tax rate. Will never happen because Congress has gone beyond CORRUPT. There is no hope for you or I. We will suffer because those in power want us to. They relie on their Constituents being totally STUPID as to what they do.

Kevin

4:55 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Keep it coming lol, I'm not going anywhere other than to the polls to vote for democrats and Warren!!

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SJP

5:03 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Thanks for proving me right. That was easy

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Dan O'Neil

9:36 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Avon someone sent me the story. I thought it was cool. I felt like sharing it. I wasn't looking for a pat on the back. I could completely agree with you and seems like you'd still have an issue. The bottom line is I simply don't trust Elizabeth Warren. I think she's got something to hide and to boot she's a 1%'er. I'm a republican that voted for Martha Coakley because I had a good idea what Scott Brown was about. I'm not a Scott Brown guy, but at least I know what he is and as the old saying goes better dealing with the devil you know than the devil you don't.

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DJ

8:08 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Linda, I completely agree and my experience concurs with your own:
That abuse occurs from BOTH sides of political landscape. Humans seem to have a propensity for greed, but I still believe the majority is and or wants to be honest and that majority, not unlike the minority is divided, but not in their intent for a better future.

Dan O'Neil

1:53 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

@Heather. I'm well aware that some people are not physically or mentally able to work. I also do my share of volunterring. I started the Challenger Basketball league in town for special needs children. That lesson should apply to people who have the ability to get off there ass and work.

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Heather

5:02 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

@Dan O'Neil, and this is directed to me why?

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Dan O'Neil

8:35 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012

Sorry Heather. Meant to be @ Kerry. Too many damn comments lol.

christopher tingus

8:01 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

The Dems have always taken the low road as We again see the Rev Wright-Obama pulpit and Ms. Hillary on Pakastani tv talking aboutv some flick few even knew about so as to distract from the issue - a WH which only attends 38% of intel briefings and has a lock and kep embassy with forewarning of impending challenges now video showing not throngs of people, but a small contingent of armed men attacking and sodomizing and torturing a US Ambassador, tearing the American flag to shreds and hoisting he Black AQ flag and these fools are on television in pakastan while CNN provides even more limelight to the "Brutes of Tehran" hosting this thug on US television -

Just wait and see - Read Pslam 83! This "Chicago-Hollywood-Washington Express" promoting this racist "Rev Wright-Obama pulpit" in empty rhetorical orations where in his pledge he has not only left Black America with far greater unemployment, especially Black youth in 2012 than in 2008, however this hal;f white man seeking in every way to divide and distract from his pledge that if he was not able to cut the defecit in half, he would be a one term - Well, it is again interesting that when letterman asked him what the national debt was in '08 when he took office - Obama could not recall - ($10.6 trillion) - however We know - Independent Voters who will run to the polls to oust this "Chicago city street slicker" who unfurled his own version of the American flag this week by the way

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DJ

9:11 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Ah, only two paragraphs before you inserted a scripture and you wonder why the Independent voter will determine this race? Personally, I am so dejected by the 30 second rhetoric and unchallenged propaganda piece that fraudulently makes its way to the "fact" boards that I'm amazed I am merly an Independent, but suspect that too shall change.

Avon Barksdale

8:58 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

I guess I should never be amazed to see people who treat politics like it's the Red Sox versus the Yankees. Everyone who is with MY PARTY is fantastically patriotic and everyone who is with THE OTHER PARTY is not only stupid but they are contributing to the decline of both the nation and civilization. Really, if you feel the need to simply insult and yell (or post "funny anecdotes" that demonstrate what destructive fools The Other Party is) simply because someone is either a Democrat or a Republican, you should probably invest in (a) a mirror, and (b) someone to help you with self-assessment.

Do I insult people here? Sure. But I firmly believe that I reserve my insults for those who demonstrate individualized lack of critical thinking skills, independent of political affiliation.

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Arthur Christopher Schaper

4:17 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012

Ms. Warren did a creditable job for her first debate.

Unfortunately, she did not persuade prospective voters that she would be an independent yet bipartisan voice in Washington, as Scott Brown already has demonstrated over the past two years.

I think Senator Brown deserves the honor of representing the Commonwealth for a full six-year term.

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Eve Viens

9:57 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

I want to know if this woman is legally licensed in Ma? It says every where not.....Even though she has an office in Cambridge and that is listed as her address on many her big cases in the past. If she is not legal what the hell is she doing on this ballet? Let's get some facts..

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Janet Sroczynski

10:09 am on Friday, September 28, 2012

@Eve Viens - take a listen here below. I also posted the information on the Easton/Patch.com website at least 24-hours in advance, prior to the Q&A-question and answer session with Deval Patrick's photo pictured.

WRKO regarding Elizabeth Warren - does she or does she not have a law license? Let's listen in with the link provided:

http://audio.WRKO.com/a/63759190/michael-patrick-leahy-on-granny-warren-s-little-law-license-problem-htm

Howie Karr show with Michael Patrick Leahy interview with Michelle. Listen to the part about "if Harvard University accepted $$$'s, then possible fraud" exists, due to a violation of Mass.Law. Then listen to the part regarding the welfare office.

Check with the Massachusetts Board of Bar Overseers.

Harvard University offers Tuition Remission and Tuition Reimbursement, so Elizabeth Warren has no excuse there either.

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Sinclair

5:03 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012

Quote from the Mass. BBO:

"Rule 5.5 of the Massachusetts Rules of Professional Conduct states that an attorney cannot, without a license to practice in Massachusetts, "establish an office or other systematic and continuous presence in this jurisdiction for the practice of law." It also states an attorney cannot, without a license, "hold out to the public or otherwise represent that the lawyer is admitted to practice law in this jurisdiction."

Michael Fredrickson, general counsel for the BBO, says he does not believe a law professor would be considered to have "a continuous presence" or "an office practicing law."

"If they actually practice here - as some part-time law professors at some of the smaller schools do - they might," Fredrickson says. "But being a professor at one of the large schools, their office is a professor's office, and the fact that they tend to dabble in the practice of law doesn't run afoul of our rule. I don't think Elizabeth Warren would fall within that, such that she would have to register here."

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