How Do You Rate Attleboro's Storm Recovery Effort?
Some are praising the work, others have less-than-kind words to say.
We are nearly two full days removed from the winter storm (tentatively known as the Blizzard of '13, we're not going to use that fish name), but the cleanup effort is not finished. Although there are several features of the recovery, the one that gets the most attention is snowplowing. Residents' opinions on how that is going, at least of those who post on Attleboro Patch's comments section and Facebook page, are mostly negative, although there are some defenders.
"Pretty sad surrounding towns where residents pay much lower tax rates have impeccable roads," wrote Jen Crowder on Patch's Facebook page. "'Epic fail' is too nice to say about Attleboro's response."
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Derek Piette wrote, "The streets definitely need to be improved. The side streets in our area are only wide enough for one car to pass. I'm sure mail delivery won't happen because of this."
Katja Chmielnik Campbell has an opposing view.
"Nice! Good job!" Campbell wrote. "And the plow drivers were working hard. I appreciated every moved snowflake. Job well done plow drivers!"
Campbell didn’t have many allies on Patch's Facebook page. There were more people who had good things to say on this website's comments section, where anonymity reigns.
"Attleboro people should be thanking these hard-working city workers and contractors for all their hours and hard work," wrote a person who says her name is Susan. "Get the map out and take a look at how many streets there are ... never mind it was a BLIZZARD!!!!!"
So, what do you think? How has the snowplowing been in your neighborhood?
Share your thoughts in the comments section below and vote in our poll. Before posting a comment, please remember constructive criticism is more powerful and useful than shot taking.
JoAnn
6:17 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I understand there are many, many streets to plow, but at least downtown should have been plowed to the pavement by yesterday afternoon.
jeffrey monty
6:29 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
The road crew did a very good job with there long hours
jeffrey monty
6:30 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
The road crew did a great job with there long hours
sheryl k.
6:46 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Yes there is still work to be done,but we had a blizzard , and it IS only barely 3 days after the blizzard and I had no problem getting to the store yesterday to get necessities. I recall during the blizzard of 78 which this can certainly be compared to where I could not leave my road for one week! ( it may have been longer) People need to put themselves in others shoes and think about it. All of our cities and towns have been working round the clock with no or little sleep to do their job.
Terrie
7:18 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
It is what it is!!!!!!!!!!! Our city workers our working so hard around the clock to clear the roads for our community. Attleboro is a big city with so many roads to clean. This is New England not down south.
Christopher Hoagland
7:38 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
The workers did a great job, now it's up to the homeowners & landlords to clear sidewalk and fire hydrants. How much revenue do you think the town could raise with fines for falling to do these simple tasks?
Think of how much safer yours children will be if they have to walk to school.
Do you want them mixed in with the traffic on these already snowy and narrow roads.
Can the fire department put out your house if the closest fire hydrant is buried under 5 feet of snow?
Bill
9:27 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
If they are young children you shouldn't let them walk on the street with traffic, I would be driving them for their safety, and second one of the hydrants on my street is buried in a 7ft high and 8 to 10ft wide snow bank. The plows shouldn't be pushing snow against the hydrants in the first place. This is how heart attacks happen!!!! Do you want to dig it out??
Bobby
9:32 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I call it adopt a hydrant- If possible please shovel your hydrant out the life you save by doing this may be your own
Erin
1:45 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I agree. Why do so many people NOT shovel their sidewalks here? We live less than three blocks from school and my daughter still cannot safely walk to her school because there are so many unshoveled sidewalks in front of private residences and businesses. Everyone needs to take responsibility for his/her own property, so the city can resume normal operations and functioning. I think we need a city ordinance requiring property owners to remove snow from the sidewalks on their property in a timely manner after a snowfall.
Ronda "Roni" Lodge
8:06 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
@ Christopher Hoagland. Easier said than done! It's not easy for he elderly to shovel their sidewalks and definately not their fire hydrants. Let alone, shovel out their mailboxes as they won't get mail until they do. So much for the Postal Carrier's creed from year ago.....................
Erin
1:46 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I bet as a community we could come up with a system to help the elderly get their sidewalks cleared. And I have a feeling that most of the properties I have seen uncleared (including businesses or the district courthouse) are not elderly residences.
Gloria Silva
8:38 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I know the different because when I got to the R.I. line after about 45mins of danger and regretting I left the house, their streets both main and side were great in comparison. I also agree with Ronda, my landlord believes throwing the snow around the end of the driveway is enough, Attleboro should go after landlords. R.I. is suppose to be bankrupt by the way if you want to talk about revenue.
Jack
9:31 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Not sure where in RI you went Gloria...my parents didn't see a plow until 5pm Sunday. Many streets in horrible condition, some in great condition.
Bill K.
9:39 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
For not having vehicles on the roads for 24 hrs and "getting a head start" on the storm the roads, how should I phrase it....SUCK! All on the main roads should be down to pavement but they are not. Newport Street from the lights @ West Street (123 near the fire station) to Rte 1-1A looks like a10 year old plowed it. County Street south of Read Street to the State Line is abismal, Newport from West St, up the hill and to the North line, looks like crap and is not even wide eoungh for two vehicles. Here is a hint to the DPW, put the plow blade down all the way umtil it hits pavement, then plow, forget about saving the plow blades for later. And use some ICE & SNOW MELT!! Take a look at Rte 1-1A, it is down to the pavement!!! not snow covered! We're going to hear the DPW get praise from a certain ( Mr. "the right thing to do") city councilor who has family ties to the Dept, on how great the "guys" did and all their hard work, blah blah blah!! The main roads are brutal and there is NO excuse for it, none what so ever
tony
12:01 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Your so good you don't even know that is Newport Ave not Street...like your report you don't know what your talking about
Bill K.
1:00 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
"Your" so good you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're". So YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about.
Like apples...how's them apples smart guy!!
What else you got, paper tiger!
Butch
9:41 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
We have been non stop since Friday morning fighting to clean these roads. All these negative commemts I'm reading, id like to see you in our possition. All the hard work we are putting in and getting nothing but negativity towards our guys. I've been off the clock a total of 4 hours out of the past 3-4 days. The rest of that time I've been out trying to clean the roads so all of you can live your normal lives. I got a new born at home, id much rather be spending time with her, but instead all of our guys have sacrafised home,families,and sleep to do our best for you ppl. Show some respect...
Brandy G.
10:22 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
You really don't see how anyone can be upset and angry when there are piles of slippery, slushy roads through the city, and cars are getting stuck trying to go up a hill?
Jack
10:47 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
We do appreciate your hard work, I'm sure it hasn't been easy. I talked to a plow guy who worked 24 straight hours.
Just sayin'
9:45 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I had the same experience as Jack. The roads were not great in Attleboro yesterday, but they were a lot worse in RI where we saw some stuck vehicles in Pawtucket.
Let's keep in mind, we just experienced a snow event of historical proportion. We have been spoiled by the relatively mild past two winters. I admit, I thought the main roads would have been better cleared by this morning however I try to keep in mind that the crews need to rest in order to continue to do their job safely.
My assessment? Overall rating = GOOD
Definitely looking forward to the this icy glaze to turn over to rain and hopefully start to melt a bit of this snow.
Bill K.
9:49 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Hey Butch, a sacrifice is doing it for free. You and the guys are getting paid well to do the job you were hired for, so stop YOUR whining. You have to work during the storm, too bad, you chose to take the job, you know what's required. Market Basket is accepting applications for the new store in Bristol Plaza, get one!
Bill K.
9:52 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
ps Butch, respect is earned. Earn it first then you may get it.
Muriel Reilly
10:14 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Wow, some of these comments are blowing my mind! Unbelievable how nasty some of you are.
Butch, I for one, thank you.
Brandy G.
10:20 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Um, I'm going with 0 out of 10.
There were two reasons for the travel ban: to keep people safe, and to make clean-up easier for crews. It was in place for hours after the storm ended, and yet even now, there are mounds of snow 5 inches high with tire tracks on either side on streets. There is no reason for that two days after the storm.
I get that it's a lot of snow but why is there a plow JUST coming down my street now, 48 hours later? Yeah, frustrated isn't exactly the word I would use.
John
10:22 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Bill K why don't you tell us what you would have different.
Brandy G.
10:23 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Ah, derailing the argument. Always a good strategy when trying to criticize people for being angry at not being able to drive safely 48 hours after a blizzard ends.
Bill K.
11:32 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
It's called being proactive John. Chemically treat the roads prior to the snow. Plows stationed across the city, not sitting at the barn, loaded with salt/sand and hitting the roads as soon as the depth reaches 1/2 inch and continuously throughout the day/ night. have reserve equipment avail to be dispatched to areas that are especially heavy. Rotate the crews on a regular schedule, say 5 on 1 off, so they are all fresher than doing all the time,but you have to deal with the union and the contract on the schedules. Those are just off the top John...what you got??
tony
12:05 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
BLA-BLA-BLA....
Bill K.
12:07 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
you have something better Tony?
Duff White
10:36 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
A few observations for those posting the negative comments:
1- How many of your driveways are down to bare pavement? I know that despite using shovels, a snow blower and salt, mine still has snow.
2- I drove to Pawtucket yesterday do shovel and had to detour through a gas station because of the car stuck in the snow at a traffic light. This was after seeing a driver digging his car out of the entrance to a side road.
3- Look at Long Island and CT where no driving ban was in place. Today they are still trying to remove abandoned vehicles so they can plow.
4- Hire the neighborhood kids to shovel for you. That's how we made money and that was in western New York where they know what snow is.
5- Attleboro is one of the few remaining communities in New England that clears sidewalks. In Providence, Pawtucket and Boston, homeowners who have yet to clear the walks near their homes are currently subject to fines.
Thank you to all of the people working to clear out from one of the top 5 snowfalls on record. Keep up the good work.
Kurt W.
10:38 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I know long hours suck, I work for a municipality and was forced to stay and couldn't go home either, thats the job so no complaints here. That being said, don't use it as a crutch or excuse for half done work. Its really poor taste and when you call the public works and you get a jerk on the phone as a rep. for that dept. it's unprofessional. Everytime I try to leave my street I get stuck on RTE 152 and its an unsettling feeling, and to try and get back in I have to gun it and hit the snow bank as a result just to get in the street. Several city trucks have plowed by my street further making side streets even worse. Not like this in many of the towns I drive through to get to and from work, so long hours and too many roads isn't an excuse for them. We pay taxes here, expensive too so we have the right to call and ask if there is anything in the works for the problem and dont deserve some guy on the other end of the line being rude.
Bill K.
11:22 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
BINGO!! WE HAVE BINGO!! Well said Kurt, and from a guy that does the same job as Butch and thinks the DPW did a poor job.
Brandy G.
2:22 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
YES. You hit the nail on the head.
Tisiphone
10:57 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I would have to rae the effort as "good". This was a blizzard and above the usual level of preparedness. On Saturday I received an email from a tenant saying she was deducting 2 hours of labor for digging her car out, not to reach the street, but to reach the plowed area of the parking lot. Of course it was SUnday before the plow could reach all areas of the parking lot.
My driveway was only plowed back in once, instead of the usual three times. Does anyone else recall the plow operator here who had his thumb bit off by a homeowner after being plowed back in 3 times? Must be ten years ago.
Bobby
11:01 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
As of this AM at 11:00AM the Main Post Office On Pleasant St is plowed & opened for Business. As far as rural delivery to homes will be slow a clerk advised.
jayce m
11:20 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
How about you plow drivers stop complaing you know you have been waiting for this. The money you make is well worth the long hours and three days.of work. Get over it the city was not as prepared as thought my road is on the line of seekonk n the dam plow did worse for us I spent ten strait hours shoveling with my hands back n freezing. You sat in a nice warm truck with your coffee so knock it off! Better luck next blizzard
John
1:51 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Bill K if you start out at a half inch of snow how does that help you when you 4-5 inches of snowfall an hour. Also salt does not work at low temperatures so definitely your sand/salt combination is not going to do anything in a storm like this. With a blizzard it takes time and you use the resources you have. So why don't you and some of the other complainers go to the next council meeting and tell them to invest in more snowplowing equipment, hire more employees to man the equipment and you would be willing to pay more taxes for this. I think they did a good job for what they have.
Ronda "Roni" Lodge
2:18 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
@ Duff White:
1. If I had a plow, it would look wonderful!
2. We don't live in Pawtucket and expect Attleboro to get it done. Especially with a driving ban for 24 hours. They had a head start.
3. We don't live in Long Island & CT and don't care. We live in Attleboro and historically the plowing is bad after a small storm, never mind a blizzard. Especially when you live on a cul de sac or dead end, they tend to completely forget about you!!
4. Kids these days are L A Z Y.............good luck finding one that will agree to do it!! Why do you think the newspaper carriers are now adults, the kids wouldn't do the job any longer.
5. We are not a major city like Providence & Boston and again we are NOT Pawtucket and don't compare us to that City PLEASE.
I agree, stop whining. You are not a volunteer, you are being paid and don't keep saying you did the best you can. You ARE SUPPOSED TO THE THE BEST YOU CAN. You are paid to do just that!
Duff White
2:54 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
@ Roni:
The reference to the other cities is because the whiners are stating that the other places are better. I don't think our roads are perfect but I do know that there are places worse. Again, I point out that this was one of the top 5 storms on record for amount of snow so to expect that the streets will be pristine a few hours after the snow stops is unrealistic. BTW, RI had the same driving ban in place.
There are approximately 270 miles of road within the city limits. Many people have posted about the extensive time it took to clear their driveway, but nobody seems willing to extrapolate that out the the road system. That seems fair.
I live on a cul de sac, my road is passable. The cul de sac itself has huge piles of snow still in the road, but each resident can get out and emergency vehicles can get in. Don't need more at this point and don't want the limited assets out there focusing on a street with 8 houses when there are more heavily traveled roads to be treated.
Kids are lazy? I would absolutely put that squarely on the shoulders of the DPW.
Don't compare Attleboro Providence or Boston? Okay, then stop comparing Attleboro to smaller communities with less roadways to clear and the same number of trucks we have.
Having served as chair of the Transportation & Traffic committee for 2 years, I can assure you I look very closely at our roads compared to all other communities, we do a better job.
Rob Machado
3:15 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
The guys and gals clearing the road are doing the best they can I'm sure. I live on Trisina Circle, on the Northern end of Lindsay Street. One side of the street is N. Attleboro the other is Attleboro. We saw one pass of the plow ( a contractor with a pickup and a blade) Friday evening and not again until Saturday night sometime. Meanwhile the North side of things was pretty much down to pavement while we had some very difficult conditions to deal with on our own Attleboro street. Finally the plow came back sometime Saturday evening and we at least had a single lane to get out in case we needed it.
What your eyeballs tell you is pretty accurate. I can tell you going to work today, turning North on Lindsay street that the surface was very snowy and required a very careful approach. Lindsay Street starts at 123 in Attleboro and ends at 140 in Mansfield. Snow conditions on the road were terrible through the Attleboro and North sections but right at the Mansfield line the snow disappeared and I was driving on wet pavement all the way through Mansfield to 140. Did they pretreat it, did they have more equipment, more contractors...who knows...but my eyeballs tell me the story of just how effective my streets were done in comparison to Mansfield DPW.
Ali
3:18 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Big disappointment in my book. I think the plows were lacking so National Grid could get some positive press for restoring power so quickly.
I credit the drivers who work many hours to try to clear the roads and the long hours involved, but I have to say I seen more plows on the road for a dusting than I did for this blizzard. Being off the road for 24 hours did not seem to produce any results in getting the roads cleared off.
Yes, homeowners are responsible for the fire hydrants and mail boxes, but do you think it's fair to dump a 12 foot mound in front of someone's mailbox? If I have to pay taxes for snow removal, don't I get to that you need to do a better job?
Hollie
3:58 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I am not knocking the city workers by any means, but to have 123 look the way that it did this morning (MONDAY..... a full 48 hours after the snow stopped) is absolutely unacceptable. Yesterday, I drove through Norton and Taunton and some of their side roads were in much better shape than Attleboros main roads, and to have the same stretch of road (123) look so drastically different after the town line is sad. The main roads looked the same this morning as they did yesterday afternoon, and this is just unacceptable. I am just wondering where all of the efforts were focused? Obviously not on the highly traveled roads.
Bobby
5:45 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I agree 100% Hollie on 123 coming into Attleboro (Main Route for many local ambulances going to Sturdy) was a wagon trail.From town line going into Norton was bare pavement all the way to 495. Mansfield uses a pre-treatment spray called Brine same as State DOT uses much more effective in pretreating and less costly in the long run. Granted a nasty storm but main roads should have been better especially on Sunday
George Glass
3:58 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Plowing is a science. You have to have a plan and determine a location to place the mass volume of snow. Clearly the plow people just pushed the snow around with no forethought or plan of attack. Gilbert Perry Square is a mess and there isn't a sidewalk to be found on pleasant street. Nice job DPW.
Steven Scott
4:14 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Well another day of driving around helping friends and family out. I have to say out of at least 10 towns the only one that compared to Attleboro was Central Falls.Not to say CF was worse just about the same, and I believe they just went thru bankruptcy didn't they?
If Attleboro's plow drivers did what they were told to do,which I'm sure they did then the boss needs to be fired.All the equipment in the world with the best operators can't make up for poor management.
Bill K.
4:34 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
OUCH!!
Bobby
4:47 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Yesterday on Oakhill Ave the DPW plow #21 was spinning tires as trying to push heavy snow,he had NO WEIGHT in body no sand etc,but he was gunning engine shifting up to a higher gear just made truck want to stall,why would you allow a plow truck out in these roads without weight in body??,truck in front of him had sander body no problem at all,but it was amuzing to see him gunning & spining out TAX$ away as he sat there dumfounded.
Rob Machado
4:35 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
**LIndsey Street** not Lindsay Street...
Briana Auclair
10:10 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sheesh y'all are entitled things aren't ya? Wish it were mandatory that you walk through the streets of Afghanistan and see how lucky you are that you have a government that you do. In some countries you go to bed thanking above that they didn't kill you today, let alone did they help you clean up. And...cue people yelling at me about how they aren't spoiled and I'm dumb. Oh how you all lead sheltered lives.
Hollie
10:22 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
lol... yes, "entitled" because we pay taxes, which "ENTITLES" us to benefit from the money we pay to DPW, etc. Thats how it works. We don't live in Afghanistan, and we aren't expecting something for nothing, we are expecting what we pay for. WE are expected to clear out fire hydrants, why can't we expect to have clear roads?? Its a very simple concept and people that don't grasp this amuse me. I live on a side road. I NEVER expected my street to be clear. I did, however, expect 123, a MAIN ROAD to be clear 48 HOURS after the last snowflake fell and anyone who thinks that this is too much to ask for is ignorant.
phillip mayer
8:48 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
It was better than N.Attleborough, but that ain't saying much.