Attleboro High Students Pick Obama
The president wins in a landslide in the school's mock election.
If the decision on who should serve as U.S. president were in the hands of Attleboro High School students, Barack Obama would have been elected to a second term in a landslide. The Democratic incumbent defeated Republican challenger Mitt Romney 855-281, according to the mock election results released Thursday.
There was also some third-party support from the AHS student body, with 129 votes going to Green-Rainbow candidate Jill Stein and 55 votes going to Libertarian Gary Johnson.
Obama was also the most popular candidate in Attleboro among voters in the real election, but not by as wide a margin. He earned 10,369 votes to Romney's 8,406. Johnson received 260 and 93 went to Stein.
Students received a second ballot that included series of questions about national political issues. In response to a question asking what the most important issue is in the country, the vast majority (729) chose the economy. Receiving the second-most votes was the national debt (210), followed by education (87), health care (79), environment (67) and energy (34).
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For each issue, students were provided with two to four statements and asked to choose the one with which they most agreed.
Regarding the economy, the most popular statement was "We should reform the nation's tax code by closing loopholes for millionaires and billionaires. This involves cutting corporate tax rates and using the tax code to reward companies that pursue innovation and invest in America."
The most popular statement about education was "Our most important educational priorities should be to expand financial aid for college students and double the number of federally funded work-study jobs over the next five years."
The most popular statement regarding energy was also the most popular statement overall. More than 780 students chose, "We should invest in clean, renewable sources of energy, especially solar and wind-power."
Regarding health care, 455 students agreed with the statement, "Universal health care coverage means more affordable premiums and lower costs because people will focus more on preventive care and avoid expensive emergency care. Americans have the right to health insurance and protections from abusive practices by insurance companies."
In contrast, only 142 students agreed with the statement, "Universal health care amounts to government control of individuals' rights, government interference in the economy, and huge costs. The individual states should set their own policies regarding the uninsured, those with chronic conditions, and with regard to Medicaid."
Nearly 700 students agreed with the statement "We should cap federal government spending at below 20 percent of the nation's gross domestic product. The other 474 voters preferred the statement, "Spending cuts will only go so far and raising taxes and/or changing the rules on how taxes are paid are also necessary steps to reduce the deficit."
Voting took place Oct. 30 at the school's library. The mock election was organized by school librarian Lisa Ryder and social studies coordinator Tobey Reed in conjunction with the national program The My Voice National Student Mock Election. The full results can be found in the PDF attached to this article.
Amy
8:59 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
It’s great the kids had a look into the election process. I hope they made a well informed decision by reading all newspapers, watching and reading all media outlets, (including the patch :). Comparing crime and unemployment rates in all states governed by both Republicans and Democrats. Detroit for example is a great monument to Unions and Democrats. It would be interesting to see how they vote in four years. In my first election, I voted for Jimmy Carters second term. The best lesson I’ve learned? Elections do have consequences, It’s kind of déjà vu with the gas lines for miles, unemployment, feelings of hopelessness bad economy, race, class, religious, and age warfare, fake war on women etc.. But to quote Alexis de Tocqueville: “People deserve the Government they get.”
deb of see-attleboro
9:37 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
No surprise. Not a single question was asked regarding individual liberty. Does anyone wonder why a growing number of citizens are disgusted with the government schools and accuse these institutions of indoctrination?
Amy, you KNOW how they will vote in four years, don't you? They are a captive audience.
Darren Major
9:52 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Both you and Amy are really off the wall - politicizing a mock election/exercise at a high school - nutcase alert!
deb of see-attleboro
10:25 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
How mature, Darren. What grade are you in now?
Amy
10:33 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Deb you are right. I wonder if the Constitution is even discussed in schools. The other comments prove my point, we are so divided now, we can't have a discussion about a mock election. We get the usual name calling everyone else is crazy, nuts... Darren a mock election is about politics.....silly.
Wendy Wagner
10:51 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
"Not a single question was asked regarding individual liberty. " Can you give examples of some of the questions you think should have been asked?
deb of see-attleboro
11:02 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
No. The issues are too complicated for most adults to grasp.
Reading this article, I can only conclude the questions were akin to a "push poll". I think these mock elections are useless in the process of educating our students. May as well extend recess or spirit week.
Gretchen Robinson
9:02 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
what about Seekonk???
Gretchen Robinson
9:03 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Amy call your local high school and ask them. Don't sit and assume the worst. Oh, I forgot, you gals always assume the worst and never bother to find out the reality.
Bishop Feehan
10:58 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Romney won in a landslide at Feehan. Interesting.
Emcee of Seekonk
11:12 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
That is interesting. Might tell you something about the difference between a private school and their values, and the public school system.
The children might be more mature or come from households that are stable and slightly more affluent. Teachers might not belong to a union, either.
Gretchen Robinson
9:05 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
brainwashed prolife zealots. I know plenty of Feehan grads who threw off the indoctrination and became, horrors, Democrats and liberals.
Emcee of Seekonk
11:06 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
"...we are so divided now..."
And we can't seem to get over it. Pages upon pages in Patch of the same people exchanging hateful remarks. What's the point?
About this mock election, it isn't surprising that the kids would go for Obama. He's young, he's funny... they're optimistic as youth always is. I hope it works out for them, because all we need is more kids graduating from college in debt and no way to pay for it.
deb of see-attleboro
11:25 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
The elephant in the room.
Attleboro High School student believe the most important educational priorities should be to expand financial aid and double the number of federally funded work-study jobs over the next five years.
It would be interesting to know wha the other choice or choices were. Doesn't sound like much out of the box thinking going on at AHS.
Amy
11:14 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Wendy I'd like the right to choose my own health care and decide what light bulb and toilet I can have in my home for starters. I could go on....
Jonathan Friedman
11:14 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Deb, you don't have to "conclude" what the questions are. The PDF is attached.
deb of see-attleboro
11:32 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Sorry. I did not read last paragragh. I will take a look at the pdf.
Amy
11:54 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
My interpretation is in parentheses, but that's just my opionion. : The most popular statement regarding energy was also the most popular statement overall. More than 780 students chose, "We should invest (spend taxpayers money) in clean, renewable sources of energy (Solyndra), especially solar and wind-power."Regarding health care, 455 students agreed with the statement, "Universal health care coverage means more(Gvm't in you business) affordable premiums (spend taxpayers money) and lower costs because (free stuff) people will focus more on preventive care and avoid expensive (patient dumping) emergency care. Americans have the right to (entitlements) health insurance and protections from abusive practices by (private companies that I wish to purchase from)insurance companies." WOW! no wonder they answered yes to those questions the way they were phrased. They wern't shown the consequenses like Greece for starters.
Emcee of Seekonk
12:03 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
"...like Greece for starters."
Sobering thought.
I'm afraid the Candyman's bag is empty, and now the piper needs to be paid. To paraphrase Obama, "There is a lot of work ahead, and the road will be long and hard."
deb of see-attleboro
1:43 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I looked at the pdf and my opinion has not changed. I even did a web search about the organization and it's backers who sponsor this My Voice National Student Mock Election. When I have more time, I will research further. Those who care about the education and future of our children would be wise to do the same.
Gretchen Robinson
9:07 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
The mock student election movement gives students a foretaste of adulthood. It empowers and encourages to study the issues and follow the candidates and think for themselves.
Deb, are you making this into some vast left wing conspiracy again?
paul
4:40 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Attleboro High School has smart kids, living in the real world and they know who to vote for just like the masses.
Gretchen Robinson
9:09 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
not like Norton and other schools....
Attleboro is working and middle class unlike your elites in your moneyed enclaves.
Public education made this country great.
Emcee of Seekonk
5:22 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Let me remind you, paul, that Obama won with 50% of the votes (that is not a mandate). Now, 50%, or the rest of the electorate did not vote for him and would be glad to see him out of there. The country is split.
Attleboro High does indeed have smart kids as does Bishop Feehan. They just have different values.
Jonathan Friedman
5:25 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I wish that Bishop Feehan had submitted results, I would have posted them. I also requested the results from Seekonk High School, but did not receive a response.
deb of see-attleboro
5:54 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I doubt every school participates in this survey. Hopefully, other schools have more important things to do.
Gretchen Robinson
9:09 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
negativity, cynicism, judgmentalism
Jonathan Friedman
5:55 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Deb, somebody above just posted that Bishop Feehan did a mock election. Seekonk High School did one as well.
deb of see-attleboro
6:50 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I was referring to the survey/mock election referenced in the article.
I am sure most schools do "just for fun" mock elections. The one organized by the librarian and the history teacher at AHS on behalf of some organization ( "The My Voice National Student Election" ) may be different than what other schools do. Or maybe not?
Amy
7:43 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I mean really! Talk about indoctrination. As a parent, I would be very concerned. It really would be interesting to see how the questions were phrased in the other schools. I'm also interested in why they wouldn't want to share them. Remember when Bush was chastised for reading a story in a classroom? I think this could be something we all agree on (don't tell Gretchen!). No matter what your political affiliation.
Gretchen Robinson
9:15 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
mock elections are a "fun" way to enter into the adult way. It doesn't count but it is serious. They try it out.
When did you go to high school, deb and Amy? The dark ages when kids did nothing by memorize and regurgitate and add columns of figures. We have calculators now. Computers in the schools. Sex ed!!! Wow. Teaching them to think before they act or get intimate. I can just see your ideal school, kind of a prison with them all sitting there in uniforms, sitting up straight, while stern teachers prowl the aisles with rulers to hit unruly students with.
Amy
9:19 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Gretchen I really admire your passion. You must be a real knee slapper at cookouts and pool parties. Enjoy your weekend.
Gretchen Robinson
9:23 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Amy,
I got so much out of my public school education. It taught me to think. It inspired in me a desire for lifelong learning. Some kids do well with English and literature, some with math, some working with their hands, some moving their bodies in space. There are many kinds of intelligence. Teachers work hard to engage their students and most are excellent and don't deserve getting dumped on the way they do. I am not a teacher, at least not in the public schools.
enjoy your weekend, too.
Amy
1:01 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
who's dumping on teachers? We were talking about how one sided the questions were phrased. Are you creating a fake war on teachers now?
paul
5:12 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
In this case it's simple, the high school kids did their homework. They looked at both sides and on one they saw a fair man who is already doing his best. On the other side they saw a man that wants students to borrow money for college from their parents and vote for for the same man who is part of a rich club of old white men.
Amy
1:07 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Paul is Obama the party of rich black men? I don't think about anyones color or age but I see the Dems do.
Amy
12:59 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Paul, did you see how the questions were phrased? They look like they were written by Nany Pelosi herself. I hope the kids did look at both sides but it dosn't look that way to me.Obama is a man who is doing his best? Really? If this is his best we're in more trouble than I thought. Obama has left all the dirty work to his minons who are just as incompetent as he is. Gretchen I went to Attleboro High and my kids went to Seekonk Schools.
Gretchen Robinson
9:42 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
where did your bitterness and hypercritical attitude?
you're going to hate the next 6 years with so many new Democratic senators.
Do you think voters incompetent? dupes??